Introduction:
Dwayne Alexander Smith is the
author of Forty Acres, which is in development at Netflix, with Jay-Z attached
to produce. Pamela Samuels Young has been widely published across genres, and
Netflix is also developing her work, having optioned the first two books in her
Vernette Henderson series. Both authors received NAACP Image Awards, for Forty
Acres and Anybody’s Daughter respectively.
AO: What brought the two of you together?
PSY & DAS: We’d
known each other for a few years after becoming familiar with each other’s
work. We’d see each other at book events from time to time and eventually
became friends. Our writing styles are pretty similar, and we had discussed the
idea of collaborating on a novel. Dwayne came up with the idea for the first
book in the series, Sounds Lika a Plan. He shared it with Pamela
and suggested they write it together, and she was all in.
AO: Not only are you both novelists but you also have other jobs.
How do you balance this with your writing.
PSY & DAS: Pamela retired from the practice
of law a few years ago and has been writing full time since then. Dwyane is
still a full-time writer, focusing primarily on screenwriting. We both love
writing and are luckily enough to be able to do it full time.
AO: A lot of trust is needed for authors who collaborate, how do the
two of you work together not only on the plot but the characters?
PSY & DAS: We work from a pretty detailed
outline. So once the writing process begins, we know exactly where the story is
headed. Dwayne wrote the first chapter from Jackson’s POV and sent it to
Pamela, who wrote the next chapter from Mackenzie’s POV. We went back and forth
with that process until the book was completed. We pretty much stuck to the
outline. It was a relatively smooth process, with very few hiccups. Because our
writing style is pretty similar and because we both like each other’s solo
work, it was a relatively smooth process.
AO: When I read Sounds
Like Trouble, it brought back memories of other detecting duos for example
Dashiell Hammet’s Nick and Nora Charles, Laurie R. King's Mary Russell and Sherlock Holmes, Jeffery Deaver’s Lincoln Rhyme and Amelia
Sachs to name a few. What makes them work so well as a duo and was it
intentional that they had to be a male and a female when for example you have
duos such as Sherlock Holmes and Watson, Poirot and Hastings.
PSY & DAS: Thanks for that amazing
compliment. From the start we felt that the dynamic between Jackson and
Mackenzie would click. Actually, we saw our two protagonists more like Bruce
Willis and Cybill Shepherd in the TV show Moonlighting. We wanted the same kind of humorous love /
hate chemistry.
AO: Are there any elements of yourselves in your main characters.
PSY & DAS: We don’t like to admit it, but there
are elements of Jackson that are very much like Dwyane and the same for Pamela
and Mackenzie. Dwyane can be a little prima donna-like, and Pamela does have
her uptight moments.
AO: What sparked the idea for the current storyline featuring
mobsters?
PSY & DAS: Dwyane has a folder full of story
ideas. He came up with the mobster’s storyline and when Pamela heard it, she
was hooked. Dwyane is definitely the part of the duo who comes up with the
outrageous car chases and action scenes.
AO: How important is research and do you do a lot of research? In Sounds
Like Trouble did you get to hang out with mobsters?
PSY & DAS: Fortunately, we didn’t have to
hang out with mobsters, LOL! We are both long-time fans of crime fiction. We
just put our imaginations to work and went for it. We, of course, do research when
there’s something we don’t have a lot of familiarity with. For instance, we researched
what’s involved in picking a lock. We’ll also make sure the settings for our
stories make sense. If we describe a building on a particular street, we make
sure the architecture fits.
AO: How difficult is it then to have storylines to ensure that they
are realistic without going overboard.
PSY & DAS: We work hard to present a
realistic story, but as fiction writers, we do take some liberties when it’s
necessary. For example, could the two PIs really sneak into a well-guarded
cemetery where tons of famous people are buried? Maybe? We try to present each
scenario in a way that the reader can at least accept it as a possibility.
AO: How important is LA as a location in this series and did you
consider setting it elsewhere.
PSY & DAS: Location is very important
for us. Local readers love reading about places they recognize. Hence, we give
a great deal of thought to where the scenes take place. We want to make sure
our LA-based readers can visualize the scene as they’re reading because they’ve
visited that exact location. We’re both from L.A. and know the city well, so we
never considered another location. That’s not to say we won’t take the story to
another location at some point.
AO: The book touches on themes of justice, loyalty, and morality
when working for criminals. Was there a deliberate message that you were trying
to convey about the characters' moral compasses, especially given the "offer
they can't refuse”?
PSY & DAS: We weren’t necessarily trying to
make a moral statement. Instead, we wanted to create a story with lots of
drama, action and conflict, where the stakes our main characters faced were constantly
being raised. If that also encompasses a moral or social issue, so be it.
AO: There is a lot of banter between your two main characters. How
easy or difficult has it been to make sure that their relationship does not
overwhelm the story.
PSY & DAS: The banter was both easy and fun
to write. That’s because if you eavesdropped on a conversation between Dwayne
and Pamela, it might be much the same as the banter between Jackson and
Mackenzie. We never feared their relationship would take over the story. Our
major focus was always on the plot and making sure it engaged the reader from
chapter to chapter.
AO: Now that you have written two books in the series is there
anything in hindsight you wish you could change about both your characters?
PSY & DAS: No, not really. We were pretty
happy with how we crafted our characters.
AO: A lot of action takes place. Which is more important to you character or
plot?
PSY & DAS: Definitely plot! We both write
commercial fiction and love a fast-paced, engaging mystery. That doesn’t mean
we don’t want well-developed characters. But our primary focus is on our plot.
AO: There are two types of crime writers those who meticulously plan
before writing and those who jump straight in and find the story along the way.
Which do you do?
PSY & DAS: We are definitely meticulous
plotters. Dwayne prepared a very detailed chapter-by-chapter outline of Sounds
Like Trouble. Then we discussed it and made a few changes. Along the way,
the story changed, but because we wrote this book together, it was crucial to
have a well-developed outline from the start.
AO: One could call this series a cross-genre book as it has not only
elements of a thriller but that of a mystery and humour. Was this intentional?
PSY & DAS: Yes, all of that was intentional.
The interplay between Jackson and Mackenzie was intended to be funny, since
they have such different personalities. We had a lot of fun with those
chapters. We also wanted to keep the reader guessing. If there’s one thing we
both equally hate, it’s a predictable ending.
AO: I believe that if you would like a good grounding in social
history and social policy that one should read a crime novel. How important was it for you to weave
important topics into your books?
PSY & DAS: While we also think that’s
important, we didn’t necessarily start out planning to make any social
statements. But when the opportunity presents itself, we’ll take it. For
example, in the next book in the series, we’ll be delving into AI and the
impact of social media on our lives.
AO: What next for Jackson Jones and Mackenzie Cunningham.
PSY & DAS: We truly enjoy breathing life
into Mackenzie and Jackson and dreaming up adventures for them. We plan to
write many more books in this series and are currently drafting the third book
in the series.
Sounds Like Trouble by Pamela Samuels
Young and Dwayne Alexander Smith (Faber & Faber) £9.99 (Out Now)
Three mobsters. Two detectives. A
deadly race against time. Jackson Jones and Mackenzie Cunningham – two of the
best private investigators in the business – are presented with a case they
aren’t allowed to refuse. The heads of L.A.’s three major crime families have
tasked them with finding sensitive information hidden by a man in critical
condition before he flatlines. Or else. The
pair can’t agree on how to furnish the office of their new joint venture, Safe
and Sound Investigations, let alone the nature of their feelings for each
other. But with a masked man on their tail, they are going to have to stick
together if they are going to have any chance of solving the case.
More information about the
authors can be found on their websites - www.pamelasamuelsyoung.com and
Dwayne
Alexander Smith
Dwayne Alexander Smith can also
be found on Instagram @theamazin and on Facebook
Pamela Samuels Young can also be
found on X and Instagram @AuthorPSY and
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